As a musician and composer I am interested in listening to all sound, organized and unorganized. As a teacher and psychotherapist I am interested in listening to others as the way we learn what others have taken our words to mean. As a human being I am interested in how others, especially those from different cultures understand the world in which they live. My listening (and seeing and reading) is an opportunity to expand my universe by learning about theirs. The ASC conference is an opportunity to do this. In particular I appreciate the opportunity to engage in listening and interacting with an international group. The ASC conference is the one time each year when I have the opportunity to talk and listen with others about constructivist and second-order cybernetic thinking.