Time, Language, Emotion, and Experience
Sunday, November 15, 2026 | 12:00 PM EDT | 6:00 PM CEST | 12:00 AM China (Monday, November 16, 2026)
“The Biology of Love… A Conversation” continued and expanded, with Pille Bunnell, Frank Galuszka, and Kathleen Forsythe.

Two decades after publishing “The Biology of Love…A Conversation” in the ASC’s PATTERNS newsletter, Pille Bunnell, Frank Galuszka, and Kathleen Forsythe return in conversation. This time with Love, on time, language, emotion, and experience. Theirs are three lives that cross art, ecology, language, learning, and care, and refuse to stay inside any one of them. In the years between, their paths have wandered and braided.
The path of the heart
A heart for all the paths
Love knows no distinction
-Kathleen Forsythe
What happens when many paths return to one heart, or one conversation to many? Come listen, ask, and find out with us.
Participants Bios
Pille Bunnell has a background in ecology and ethology. After finishing her doctorate studies in Berkeley half a century ago, she began her professional life as a research associate at the University of British Columbia, followed by nearly two decades as an international environmental consultant. Leaving the consulting field, she taught postgraduate courses in systems methods and systems thinking at Royal Roads University for a further couple of decades and became active with several professional systems societies (ASC, ISSS, RSD and CybSoc).
Frank Galuszka is a painter, writer and cybernetician, Professor of Visual Art at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and past president of the American Society for Cybernetics. His principle papers about art and cybernetics include Towards a Cybernetic-Constructivist Understanding of Painting (Constructivist Foundations), and The League (For Love of Cybernetics). There is an interview with Galuszka on “Painting Perceptions” and films about his work by John Thornton, including “Different Realities.” He is the author of the book Cafe Vernacular.
Kathleen Forsythe has written poetry and published 6 books of poetry before she was thirty. She became interested in cybernetics over 45 years ago and has been inspired by Humberto Maturana, Gordon Pask, Lou Kauffman, Frank Galuszka, Pille Bunnell and many others. In her career she worked as a knowledge architect on a number of innovative educational organizations supporting learning and technology. She is also an artist and writer. She currently lives and works with nonspeaking young adults with autism.
Moderated by a new cybernetician, Oliver Scout Guerisoli.
Image by Frank Galuszka, “Perelandra” 1999.




